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No Differences or Separation (Ashtavakra Gita 2.21) - 25th October 2016

October 25, 20165:4224 views

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Ananta explains that by setting aside mental labels and judgments, one perceives the multitude of appearances as a single, inseparable whole, rendering attachment and suffering impossible in the face of this formless Oneness.

Without the interpretive mind, all of existence is seen as one single, formless appearance.
The fallacy of 'mine' creates suffering because we seek the eternal within a constantly changing realm.
When you see no separation in the multitudes, there is nothing left to cling to or avoid.

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Transcript

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Ananta

So, verse 21: 'I see no differences or separation; even the multitudes appear as a single formless desert. To what should I cling?' And we've been checking this, isn't it? Saying that when we look, we don't label. We don't make labels, we don't interpret anything, we don't judge anything. We just see as the impersonal witness and we see that all of this is one appearance. I see no differences or separation in this one appearance. Then, without the interpretive mind, without the subtitles of the movie, it is just seen as one appearance. And separation needs for us to make a concept, to use our mind.

Ananta

Even the multitudes appear—whatever might be appearing. You could have an experience where you see the entire multiverses, infinite in number, and you transcend time and space, you transcend the body, and everything is possible. But even the appearance of these multitudes, they appear just as if it is one single formless desert. So when we don't make the distinction between grains of sand, then everything is seen to be one screen on which this movie is playing. 'Appearance to what should I cling?' This is very important because remember what the question was. Janaka's question—who remembers what the original question was?

What is the question?

Ananta

In the first verse: knowledge to be attained and detachment achieved, liberation to be found. So, detachment and like this, 'to what should I cling?' And you see that all of this is just one. There is no separation unless I start this mental process of labeling mental ideas. Then what can we be attached to? There can be no mind, there can be no sense that 'this is mine'—I want this as a desire—and there can be no sense that 'I don't want this' as an aversion.

Ananta

So it is attachment; it plays in this world. And the minute we fall into this trap of 'this is mine,' then it is the root for suffering. Why? Because once we attach to something and say it is mine, you feel that this should be with me forever. See all these love stories that we read: 'Will you be mine forever and ever?' Not even this lifetime, but all lifetimes, forever. So we are searching for something eternal, but we are looking in the wrong direction. And the looking in the wrong direction is that we attach to an appearance and say, 'You be mine forever.' And then you see that, no, it's not. After a while, maybe we don't even want it forever; it just felt like that right now, but right now I just need some space.

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Ananta

So this fallacy of saying that something is mine is false because this is the constantly changing realm. The minute we say something is mine, then we want it forever. Then we find that it is moving, it is changing, and that is going to create some suffering if we are attached. Even when we say, 'I just don't want this, this should not happen,' you see, and life inevitably makes something like that happen. So even when we have an idea, we are attached to something not happening, even that is dissolved, even that is seen through.

Ananta

So when we see that even the multitudes appear as a single formless desert, to what should I cling? And to see this oneness of this appearance also is very beautiful. We'll come to the oneness of non-separation between awareness and Consciousness itself, you see. But at least in this appearance, we can start to see that it is all just one. All of this is just one. Then to what should I cling? To make an attachment then will seem to be very hard work. It's beautiful.

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