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Have You Lost YourSelf? - 12th December 2016

December 12, 20169:4279 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta challenges the notion of having 'lost' the self, pointing out that while external attributes and the body constantly change, the self is the ever-present, prior reality in which all phenomena and ideas arise.

How can you lose yourself? You are the self; it is more obvious than the body.
Can an idea rest on itself? What is that which is prior to the idea of me?
Is there any difference between the nothing from which space comes and the nothing within space?

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Transcript

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Ananta

Thank you. I lost my shoes. Can you give me an idea, can you give me a suggestion about where I can find them? What do you see? I lost my shoes. You have an idea of where they could be?

Seeker

The feet, okay, or there. Yes, or where we did see them last.

Ananta

So now what are we doing here? Presumably trying to find the self. Wherever, where must we look? But I said I lost myself. Where should I look for it? I come to you and say, 'You look like a smart guy, can you give me some advice? Where should I look for myself?' What's the answer? But if I was to say, 'I lost my body, can you help me how to find it?' then what would you say?

Seeker

Um, at the bottom. The body is here. Where did you lose it?

Ananta

Why is this not true for the Atma? Why would you not say, 'But who are you then? But you are the Self. How can you not be the Self? How can you lose yourself?' You would say if the body is more obvious. So that which is the Self, you see, is it less or more obvious? And for a while it can seem like it is less obvious. It can feel like I've lost the Self and I'm trying to find it. I'm trying to find myself. And also so many centuries sages have said, 'Know thyself.' But I know myself. Who doesn't know themselves?

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Seeker

Objective.

Ananta

Then who are you right now? What are you representing right now? Then you might say, 'I'm the sum of all of these things in my life: my relationships, my body, my ideas, my money, my interest, my hobbies, my everything.' But then if I was to say, 'What if all of these started to dissolve?' Money gone—suppose the Prime Minister says money is illegal from tomorrow, everybody will just barter—so money gone. Relationships vanish, we realize are rubbish, so gone. Do you go along with any of this? Body—every cell is changed every few years. This body has nothing in common with the body that was born out of my mother's womb. Not a cell is the same. So body also constantly changing. What is that at the center of this? And even if it is an idea of me, whose idea is it? Can an idea rest on itself? You can say that in the center there is an idea of me, but can that idea exist, or it needs something to support it? Can you have an idea without you is the question. Is it possible? So what is that which is prior to the idea?

Seeker

Nothing.

Ananta

That's what you're looking at, isn't it? Where does all of this rest? Give some exercises to all of you to do. I'm supposed to contemplate on attention, belief—whose forces are they? Where do all of these come from?

Seeker

Nothing.

Ananta

Is there any distinction between this nothing and the empty nothing which is in this space? For example, even if air was not there, this—you can say that the nothing in this room is absence of phenomenon, or there is some phenomena. Let's ignore that for now. So this nothing is the absence of phenomenon. So that from where this arises, all phenomena arises. Is it the same nothing? Is there any difference between the nothing from which time and space comes and the nothing which appears within space?

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These satsangs touch the same silence.