Contemplation on the Ashtavakra Gita Ch. 20, Vs. 1-9 and Q&A - 19th September 2017

When will the discovery happen? Now. Only now it can happen. Only right now. It cannot happen in a projection of the future and it cannot happen in the post-mortem of the past. What is it that you are right now? Every clue which is available, if we doubt that you have heard now in the nineteen chapters, almost every clue in the Vedanta has been heard by you now in this moment. Here and now, what is it that you want? Suppose if you don't go along with all that might be said, and you don't go along with what the quality or content of your thinking is, right? Don't go with any of these, don't resist any of that. Of course, find out what witnesses that. Come to the unchanging, the truly... when we use the words 'the unborn, undying, the eternal,' it is not just a concept. This is your own direct experience. And all these pointings are not something for you to do. Just allow them some space in which they can enter. You cannot solve it. You cannot solve for 'I' like an equation: 'I will add three plus two, multiply it by fifty-five.' I mean, you're trying to solve it like this. Don't take it like that. What is the sage saying? You cannot get it through these phenomenal tools. Let these words do their work from their own sense of allowing it. That is possible in Satsang, just to keep that. It just opens up because the mind will take even these pointings and make a 'doer' out of you. 'I can be tried and I got to the right witness. Is this really good? Is it really unchanging?' See, see, it will be coming.

Just like that, know that this is your own intuitive presence which is speaking, solely using the body of this so-called Ananta to communicate. What is the voice which is speaking? Your own intuitive presence reminding itself of its own source. Where does consciousness come from? Is this Atma? Come so far, consciousness has been playing on this side of the field where things are moving. Can you now play on this side of the field where there is nothing? This is a simple recognition. Who is coming to this recognition? It is the dynamic aspect of the Self. 'My nature is transparent clearness.' So, what does this mean? Basically, it means that it is attributeless, qualityless, clear. Clear beyond any clear, transparent beyond transparency. Transparent clearness. Now, as I say this, 'transparent clearness,' if you give it to your mind to find this transparent clearness, they will try to give you an image which is fine, transparent, maybe something, something—all ideas. But find out what witnesses even that much. And who is aware of this? See, who is the perceiver of this mental notion of transparency? And what is aware of this perceiving? Usually, transparency is beyond any mental notion of transparency. And you're playing on the side of the field.

'Where is scripture? Where is self-knowledge? Where is the mind? Where is contentment and freedom from desire? I am empty of two-ness.' Where are the Vedas? Where are the scriptures? Now is the time. What is the sage pointing to? The sage is saying time to drop all this knowledge that we have picked up. They were only useful as pointers. There is nothing you need to remember or know. To know the Self, you don't need to know mentally. The knowingness is awareness. You don't remember one word of the Bhagavad Gita, you don't know what happened in the last nineteen chapters? Completely fine. What is it that you are now? You don't know anything about anything at all. You don't even know what you're doing here. Better relax. We know too much. If you know what you're doing here, where you have to go, then these mental notions just get in the way, seemingly. Part of the play. You can see right now that to exist, you are not using a concept. Is the thought of the concept holding up your existence right now? If you forget all language, if you do not understand your thoughts, will you cease to exist in this moment? And then if it is just here, this existence, and this world of appearances continues to move as it has to, then what is it that is to do? What is it that wants something? What is it that is separate? Is there any such thing?

How long will we fall for the interpretation? Okay, sensations. The intimacy of these seeming sensations. How long will we let it convince us that we are just this bundle of flesh and blood? That's all that's happening. I was saying to someone yesterday that you were saying that you are the body, but actually in your experience, the body just is a set of sensations—visual sensations, tactile sensations, feelings, pain, pleasure. Whatever we use, we give to those sensations. So, consciousness has been caught up trying to disentangle itself from the sensations of pain and cold, or sensations of pleasure. Now, are you not done with that game? What is the witness of all these two opposites? That which is aware of all of this, is it subject to any of this? Is that not you? For your unlimited Self, it removes the false notion of the limited self and it means the unlimited Self. Bhagavan said, 'I remove the "I" and get me the "I".' The word Satsang is for now, saying that any place which seems to become an aid in this world to remove this limited notion of your idea of limitation about yourself is Satsang. Any place which reinforces it is not Satsang, even if it is this one. So, it is possible to hear the words of Satsang and again reinforce a spiritual ego more. It is possible to hear the words of Satsang as pointers to see. One pointer may be: 'What witnesses everything?' Exactly. It means unchanging. What witnesses everything and itself remains unchanged. This one sentence is more than enough. I used to use this for so long every day. Actually, it is enough to put more as the tools.

'Where is self-knowledge? Where is the mind? Where is contentment and freedom from desire?' So, where is no-mind and freedom from desire? And you are trying to get to the movement. What is no-mind? This is the bundle of thoughts is mind, and there is no-mind whether objects are on the screen or no objects. This is either. So, all these concepts were useful at one point of time. Come to this: the appearance of mind is there, there is no mind. Where is contentment and freedom from desire? So, we are trying to be also on the spiritual path, trying to get to this again. Many times it's like me trying to get there again. If you think it was never, never, never... once again, you cannot use these phenomenal byproducts to make it through the same. Whatever the appearance might be, what is it that you are? So often I've said that my arch-nemesis is to check out. Then please check again. It takes everything and ruins your... what is it that you are taking about this concept? Even those concepts that you hear in these, deeply ingrained, if they're not serving their purpose but they're adding to your basket of knowledge, I don't want to replace the concept 'I am the person' with a 'beyond' concept. And all these concepts is I'm showing you that it is possible. In spite of having no negative concept, it can be picked up and they can be let go. 'There is contentment and freedom from desire. I am empty of two-ness.' In Advaita, 'not two' is used, not just 'one'.

This concept, even those concepts that you hear in these deeply ingrained—if they're not serving their purpose but they're adding to your basket of knowledge, I don't want to replace the 'I am the person' concept with a 'responding' concept and all these concepts. I'm showing you that it is possible, in spite of having no negative concept, it can be picked up and they can be let go. There is contentment and freedom from desire. I am empty of two-ness, of Advaita. 'Not two' is used, and not just saying 'one' and 'one.' Then we use it like that, but many times even the ideal 'one' can imply that factually, the one which is objective in a way. And therefore, they can give that one which is 'not two.' If there is one, that is that. What kind of one? You do not find an entity there. Yes, but the witnesser of that which witnesses both the phenomenal and isn't itself phenomena is a type of opposites. So everything is—the entire spectrum is available, isn't it? So what is the key? Witnessing. Opposites are witnessed, but that itself which witnesses, that itself which is aware, now where is knowledge and ignorance? Where is 'I'? Where is 'this'? Where is 'mine'? Where is bondage and liberation? The Self has no attributes.

This is exactly what you were saying. Knowledge and ignorance—if they remove you, opposites... Do I know, you know, how far we are from the sun? Whether we have that mental concept or we don't have it doesn't matter. So that knowledge is different from this knowing this. So don't get confused with the term. Knowledge can be conceptual knowledge: 'How far are you from the sun?' Second, it can be like a perceptual knowledge: 'How many people are in this room?' Potential in this way. There can be an emotional sort of knowledge: 'How am I feeling? Great, a sense of joy,' whatever the qualitative thing might be, emotional. But beyond that, what is that which knows of your very existence? What type of knowledge is that? Or do you know that you exist? Do something. This is—you use a concept and I ask you: Can you stop being? Experience your own beingness. Are you using a concept? Are you using senses? Are you using giving and of teaching? And yet you say this: 'I am.' Your beingness is here. I cannot stop this. Awareness, surveillance for to the world of that before as far as to us. Please, can we read? 'I am aware of my presence.' What is aware that I am aware of? And I know to the mind it might sound like... but it is possible to have an infinite reaches. This lottery has to stop here, actually, if you're following to your recognition, following with your direct insight. And you will see, there it is.

This is actually the last question that you can ask yourself. After this, the play of subject and object stops. It is nobody there. Only the presence beyond any qualities, awareness itself available. And it's much simpler than it might sound like to the mind. It will, because it is self-aware that you are able to say 'I am aware.' To see 'I am aware of my presence,' you have to know 'aware' and 'presence.' Don't try to understand these words, just let them flow into you. Who are aware that you exist? And it is not that you are unaware that you are aware. It's not a riddle; it's the most natural thing there is. Where is 'I'? Where is 'this'? Where is 'mine'? This was 'I' and 'mine' and 'this' and 'that.' He lifted all of these things many times. We come to this point of Ashtavakra: Where is bondage and liberation? We've already discussed this today. The Self has no attributes.

How many of you feel—let's do some quick polling because we are coming to the end of that—when I say that the Self is empty of qualities, it says your Self has no attributes, like you have no idea what nobody says, a message later if there's too much pure pleasure. How many of you feel like you have some idea and maybe even some insight into what the sage is saying, but it's not really clear? This, whenever you get these middle options... See, how many feel like there's some understanding of them, so maybe even some recognition of insight of this quality-less Self, but it's not really, really clear? I see some hands. And how many of you feel like it is the most obvious? It really seems it's completely fine. My dear, the question is: Is this inside me or is it blurry? Again, we are not sort of notion translation of these concepts to capsulize what is happening. What happens when using a pointer like, 'Oh, who is aware of your presence?' All these pointers are pointing in the same direction, this side of that's already before we go to the questions.

Let me see if you can do some... Where is the unfolding of karma? Where is liberation when life or even liberation like that? There is only one now. Some of you might be hearing this, and if you come from a traditional spiritual background, something like me, where you spent a lot of time trying to understand karma, trying to purify our karma and to do all of this, and then there's been a lot of time which has gone into either these are two traditional paths: trying to get liberation while we are in this body, and the other path is to try to be as much in devotion as possible so that at the moment of death you merge into the Lord itself. Liberation, again, is a traditional game, spiritual paths. Now Ashtavakra is saying whether all of this Dharma, Buddha's karma apply true. Even if it is the design of the world, even if it is the design of this plane that what happens here is that you will sow, you will reap what you sow, what goes around comes around—even if that is the design of this world, who does it apply to? Is it the script of the movie or is it about you? Then you see that that one that is the light of this movie is so beyond any idea of roots. Even if it seems to play in a certain way, this, when we pick up the idea that it must be this way, you will see where something opposite shows up.

In many times, I will come, this God saying hello, either like a coin, so-called coincidence with a mathematical probability of one, and I'm like, there's no explanation for it. How could it be there? This is just what you are talking about and here it is. So that's like causing so many times you get these kind of play, this kind of play in the movie. Now you will see that it's undeniable there is a supreme intelligence which is completely free that seems to be running this world of this law. And if you look back at our life, we are able to admit that most of us are able to bring that anytime you see, 'I just happened to be in the right place at the right time. I just happened to see your YouTube videos.' Well, you and life is changed. Beautiful things. But we can never, never really with this to see, make this kind of statement about the past, but the mind very rarely is able to use that to surrender everything in the future. So whatever might be the rules of the functioning of this realm, whatever your parts to liberation might be, whatever your ideas about liberation might happen, whom do they apply to now? Who is here that is free or bound?

It is not like this because then we find this which is empty of all qualities. Over our mind, it says, 'What? You found nothing.' That which is the complaint of the mind is the beauty of this recognition. That which is the complaint of this mind, which is that you found nothing, is the beauty of the recognition, like you found this now. No thing, hearing what? Everything. So that which frustrates many of you, and I see that, finds it's just aware because this is the witnessing. It is unchanging. Everything else comes and goes. See, all of you, when you check back with all the clothes, you see sixty. This is what the sages have been talking about. What does it apply to? Liberation doesn't apply to all of this. It has been most removal based on what we believe about ourselves. We have identity back, back, back to even to this point zero, before 'I am.' But if you try to prove before this, before 'I am,' because 'I am' is the steaming attempt to move your attention there, see what you see which is before 'I am.' Yeah, if they're using anything called attention, attention home, this is John. There is nothing further back. Meridian booth. So I best let you see the ten that this attention back, you see pretension, I know further back to simple if done without resistance of the mind. Is it not you? It's just too natural. It's always been this way and therefore can see like, oh, we're coming to your truth which cannot be tinted or scratched by anything. I say it isn't said, if this entire universe burns, it will not leave a scratch on you. This is the discovery that you family to about yourselves.

The mind says, 'Oh, you just fine.' We're inside the mind. Actually, the mind might never get used to the fact that you are not phenomenal in your greater reality, although the phenomenal is also part of your reality. You have created the elytis, right? Because that is the unchanging. Phenomenal reality will be changed. Even the basis for phenomenon, the sense 'I am' itself, comes and goes. This one phenomenal is the unchanging. That's why we call it the greater, not inside. It is beyond time and space, beyond size. But the mind is not designed for that. The mind is designed to the critter of phenomena. That's why I say we are using the wrong tool if you are trying to find the Self with it. Deep as much as you like, you will come to the end of reason, and beyond reason you will find yourself. Beyond mind and intellect, you will find yourself.

Where is the doer or enjoyer? Where is the origin or end of thought? Where is direct or reflected knowledge? There is no person here. Where is the doer or enjoyer? Where is it? Who is hearing right now? It will be working that the same one is hearing and speaking. It is only one consciousness speaking with consciousness without emotion about yourself. This is your perceived reality. This is what you are seeing. But anytime this is not what you are seeing, next time some words appear from your mouth, I thought, 'Who spoke?' But is there really somebody sitting over there? Where do these words come from? Hand is moving. Is there a number sitting there? There is only power, there is only consciousness hearing these words. All of this, you see, you go home, you see calm, sees God. What is born? A mind is designed to do the sailor of the bucket. The un-inquired 'I' is the ego. This, the notion that we pick up over ourselves without looking at who that really is, because we cannot withstand an inquiry. You cannot withstand true inquiry, open inquiry. You will see that there is nobody there. I say, 'Where are you?' Mr. de Semana says, 'I'm something inside my body.' Where? What are you?

So the doer and enjoyer do not exist. If you consider yourself to be a person, no person exists. So they try like these simple examples, like to do count. Why? Because you say when you will say the person doesn't exist, and pretty clear about that now, but how do I get rid of the world identities? So it's like saying, 'I'm aware that there is no blue count, but how do I get it from drinking all the money in the house?' It is a contradiction, you see. If you know that you do not exist personally, then who is it that has the attitude of the ocean? That which actually is. So person does not exist. Does that mean that you are not? But you can say to save you are not, you must be basis. You have to exist exactly. So this existence is whose existence? This is the final misunderstanding. This existence is whose existence is this? So personal existence? It is existence itself, whether you call it consciousness, God, 'I am,' being, whatever. But when we say this existence is of the person that I consider myself to be, mr., this is the root of the gay anthem, what is called the Jeeva. 'I am something'—a motion or picked up the motion about itself or something limited. Then please, all of the jihad powers then takes off all these rules: mother and husband and wife, employee, manager, all of this, then spiritual seeker. Then what is the troublesome goal that you could pick up? Enlightened one. Don't bother with that one, don't bother, because that can be supposed to keep is not true. Sage is not enlightened or attached to the whatever is a little bit emotional about Rosa. I keep saying it in most human emotion, why? Because it is the perpetuation of the mind and ego.

Being limited, then please, all of the Jiva powers then take off all these roles: mother and husband and wife, employee, manager. All of this, then spiritual seeker. Then what is the troublesome goal that you could pick up? Enlightened one. Don't bother with that one, because that can be supposed to be... 'He is not true sage' or 'He is not enlightened' or 'He is attached to the whatever.' He is a little bit emotional about Ram Ji. I keep saying it: most human emotion, why? Because it is the perpetuation of the mind. And if you really smell for what the mind is saying, you will find that almost everything that it's selling to you is the idea of your limited self. Something if your boundary is being defined. Any concept you pick up about yourself draws the boundary about it. It's trying to create a line in space and saying, 'This starts and ends in this body.' Or enjoyable. There is no origin or end depth into this exercise. See where the thought comes from.

And we will start coming to satsang. Some are using like they are creating their problems and also they create interaction in many times. You see, since things just appear and disappear, is that lure of action bit which usually is most key, which we will come to that also. See, when you see that just like the thoughts are disappearing, origins of this, the idea of running this, it's just the idea that 'I can do with a job.' Then what? Oh, God is not interested in women. It has created all ideas which are the basis of the ego, the idea of separation. You see any of these old spiritual stories about this because representations of this, that the idea that some separation actually really happens and trying to make this separation work because there is no... I know that we are jaded, we'll be after thousands or something, but there is no person here.

I will see it very dramatically. So who's in an ocean? Is he in you? Then we look for one night open. You see, there is nobody like that. What is undeniable goes through your direct incitement. Now that has been interpreted by the mind as something idea. And now you see that there is nothing personal about it. For these sensations do not create a boundary for it. Anything that is appearing in this seeming outside world need not enter the appearance of anything. You know, pleasure doesn't touch it. You are I am, Diana, only bodies. And yet, what of fully truths this is, that I is beyond even I am. Easy to become jaded with the words because we hear them so often. See what that means. All these ideas which you have about yourself, the doership and the desire and the duality, they would will be applied. There is no person here. And there you are. What was this movie? Who is the perceiver? What is the word of even this one?

Yeah, as I'm getting older, I'm starting to understand more and more why scriptures like Ashtavakra, even the Upanishads, but not so regularly open. Initially, they were almost kept in secret because once you come to this, and if it becomes just like, 'Oh, there is no person,' we can talk very well. We can speak very well. Actually, you know, thousands and thousands of... so I continue like personhood itself tries to play the role of consciousness in the teams, trying to catch these. Well, I know there is no person here. We have to hear this with the innocence of a child. An individual entity, more separation.

Where is the world? Where is the seeker of liberation? Where is the contemplative? Where is the man of knowledge? Where was the soul in bondage? Where is the liberated soul? My nature is unity. Where is the world? Where is the seeker of liberation? Where is the contemplative? Where is the man of knowledge? Where is the soul in bondage? Where is the liberated soul? My nature is unity. You look at all these. Where are creation and destruction? Where is the end and the means? Where is the seeker? Where is attainment? I am one. There are no creation and destruction. Where is the end and the means? Where is the seeker? Where is attainment? I am one.

When you start to look at this, life is empty of the personal ends. So even your that which equality, see day-to-day life which we take so much for granted, you realize where that comes. This consciousness, this being I am, waking up of this being, you feel it. The world wakes, the universe. So this will you say that I am that shoreless ocean in which the arcs of this universe, they go up and down. They are appearing, the disappearance. I am that in which all these escapes taking to sleep and through here you come and go. What is your beauty experience? You will come, you as consciousness appear to exist in this existence. In this entire play of light and sound, of time, of spheres, all these beautiful electricity in gravity, disappearances, and you are not distance. Dissolves into its source. It is all of this cool, just like the content of a dream flows right back into you.

This simply and peel the lens of personhood. You start to see the world, day-to-day life which seems so mundane for the person, you see it is fully under. This is the deal of it. You don't feel like, 'Oh, there is a God which came to rely on you or disruption and destruction.' Where does this happen? Where is the end and means? Where is the seeker? Where is attainment? I am one. Where is the knower? Where is knowing? There is the no knowledge itself. See, when we come to know, moving and knowledge, the more these distinctions we feel. So it is beyond the subject-object relationship. Don't be confused by the words. All I'm saying is that there's an object which you perceive before in that I'd object and you are the subject of man. Now, who is the subject of this subject to perceive this? You each receive an object. What perceived this perception? In the Upanishads it says, 'Who here is hearing? Who sees sight?' Not to be getting little to no, then who is aware of all perception? Who is aware of the so-called movement of attention? You'll find that there is no distinction between subject and object.

Where is anything? There is nothing. I am pure awareness. Where is anything? There is nothing. There is distraction, concentration, knowledge, or delusion. Where is joy or sorrow? I have stillness. There is distraction, concentration, knowledge, delusion. Why is he saying all of this? Which is trying to talk, all this trying to get to focus mind, to have these certain practices I do. I see what I am. We want this entire way of trying to change or trying to control my attention, trying to control my senses and to control my mind. Distraction and attention, what is it that you are? Alleged delusion, we talk too much. There is joy. I am still now.

Because we will do is that is Sat-Chit-Ananda. We conveniently usually forget about the Sat, then Chit, the truth and being, and focus a lot on the Ananda, just the base of the joy. I mean, many ask, tell you three types of peace. One is the joy of the happiness that you get which is based on objects. You have a coconut, you like the water, sweet. No, I can come based on some objective please. Second is divine joy. As you come to your unassociated presence, I am, it brings to the joy in presence. There's no need for that joy. There is no need for joint and ear to it. It is unavoidable, which is appearance. Love, peace, and joy are your fragrance as consciousness not attaching itself to personal identity. It is empty of any object. You don't need an object of any soul to come to this room. And the final joy, that Brahmanandam, that purity of the attributeless. Yes, it is not that pure and impure, the realm of duality like this which is just spoken about. He only the joy of existence is joy of the Self. We will see that the Self, its very nature, this is Ananda, qualityless Ananda. How can I make sense out of that for you? You have to taste it for yourself in presence. This joy is you. Worry about Sat, then Chit, Ananda will take care of itself. So don't worry if it's complex. Forget about three types of joy. You don't need to know this. Just simply pointing: stay with the truth, just remain now being as you are. Nobody you can do only you again through a personal lens it consume you.

Okay, maybe enough for some questions in the chat. The question Shweta says, 'Guruji, I know it's aware of all the happenings and of the one that is observing, but not sure if it is qualityless.' So then you will find that a quality is a phenomenal perception. Find out what witnesses even that quality. You will come into a fine. You see that all that is phenomenal and give itself, it doesn't seem to be qualityless. It seems to have a quality. And what perceives even that is that which is aware of this quality itself. In that quality or has that quality? Now, if you do this like this, then you will find that mind has been a trickster. It's even us videos, visuals, or imaginations of the Self. So on, it can imagine. All it can imagine it is something with qualities. So if I say empty of qualities, then the mind might create a visual for you which is like this space, black and these things, or it creates this white light, all the winning. But neither of these is the Self. These are also perceived. These are also qualities.

I have come across many who have gotten through this sort of the mental trap where they pick up the concept 'I am awareness' and they pick up the visuals of this seeming awareness which is this. You can key space as getting through to them as difficult in the peer. It's difficult holding on to a concept of awareness which seems to track very well with the notions which in readable awareness and the scriptures. Empty. Find out what witnesses even this. It can be said to be big, for example. What witnesses the bigness? That big goes wrong. If you feel like it's a dark empty room but animated huge, what witnesses the darkness of the witness? A little less. This is something that your mind will not pattern. It keeps offering of visuals to its solution, its interpretation of this. And you will say you can put a word to it, even empty. All these are just pointing. We have to use one. Say empty, a big thing, what? Even nothing. Well, keep on this scent of the 'I'. Keep following the witness because it is a loose end. Don't see that which is not in time, not in space, the love of shape. Would you like to not imagine it? And yet it is undeniable.

So is it necessary to know that it is quality? No, not really. It's just as you come to this simple recognition about what is it that this is everything, then you really will find it very difficult to say something authoritatively about it because words you will see cannot match what you're discovering. And yet if somebody was to put a gun to your head and say 'Is it quality or qualityless?' you will get qualityless. Are they one or two? There you will pick one. It's not a true answer, but it applies more properly. So between the two answers, 'It has quality' or 'It is qualityless,' actually ultimately both answers are forms, but nothing really can be said about it. But between the two, qualityless is true in a phenomenal explanation of it, in a phenomenal pointing of it.

Simple people like street vendors, bigger labels, etc., are more courageous to hand over existence to existence many times. So Guruji, does it mean that all our desires are out of fear of not trusting the existence we are? Though with respect to body, not the day and I thinking exception, how to relate? I am convinced will seekers. I am, I feel I am as from first read this 'I' the treats 'I am' in some way that 'I am'. How do you treat the notion of 'I am'? Find out who is the carrier of the machine. Whether it is from birth, all the vehicles from waking up the pond 'I am', or it is this morning. Who is carrying this notion in their basket right now? Designer, who is believing this or that? Who is that? That is you.

I see some of you struggling with the words I'm saying. No, that's why I say don't try to understand what I'm saying. Don't try to compute them. Don't try to store them. Don't try to fiery them for output. Just allow them to work on something. Something is happening on its own. Come simply, openly to satsang. All effort can be dropped here. Just a simple openness. Something is doing between up jons. The intervention from your mind is not needed. Most are girls because you will not.

This or that, who is that? That is you. I see some of you struggling with the words I'm saying, no? That's why I say don't try to understand what I'm saying. Don't try to compute them. Don't try to store them. Don't try to file them for output. Just allow them to work on you. Something is happening on its own. Come simply, openly to satsang. All effort can be dropped here. Just a simple openness. Something is doing between us, and the intervention from your mind is not needed. Most are girls because you will not get this. You will get it, but you will not get it depending on what they you is. Pushpa, do this. Be a happy birthday, my dear. Eponine sees this, please. We share the very best, all our love and blessings with others.

I have one more question, Guruji. To at least, can I ask? Media say that many times when Nandu is ship, we pick up that identity. Is that what you're asking? Okay, let me win the entire toxic to achieve. You can have the idea that I am a limited body-mind, or do you mind organism? I have some ability to also have the ability to not do because I can be lazy if I like. It's a chore that can see consider yourself to be separate body-mind often.

That's what I said, that this notion does not survive one minute of inquiry because you don't find anybody there, Shwetha, which is moving your head and the mind. Something like that trying to create right or guilt or something spontaneous when you see there. Let's say the see that you are not the doer, that all doing is a spontaneous movement within consciousness. All that we time-shared like that, you are not the doer. I've seen many in satsang hold on very tightly to the non-doer identity. The mind only works in opposites. If I say you are not a doer, the mind will say, 'Okay, I must be the non-doer.' The 'I' in this case is still the wrong one.

The idea that you're a tree and you are moving your branches, then you come to satsang and know you are not moving your branches; it's a higher force, God or wind. Now you went from lower identity, 'I am moving my branches,' with a non-doer identity, 'No, no, I am just here. God is moving my branches or wind is moving my branches.' This is... but even that is not true about you because you are not the tree, the ground, the roots, or everything. Now, typically, you are just the witness of even all of this misunderstanding that 'I am moving my branches.' I think that I am a limited entity, but a higher force is moving my branches.

Let me take another example. You might think that you are a chair, and you might think, 'I have been moving myself all this time.' A wise man comes and says, 'No, no, you have not been moving. Another human being comes and moves you.' That you are the doer, the motions, everyone onto earth was holding on to the notion that you know... the calf hold on to the notion that you are the chair. And very easily you can pick up, become a victim mindset: 'I am the chair. Why does God always put me out in the sun?' Now, why it is important to see who's being moved around by a higher force? A person around by a higher force, you can still have a resentment against that force, or you can pick up some pride that, 'Look, only good things happen to me because I am God's special child. God is always doing these things to me. There's so many bad people as there is always the holiday.' Thank you. It's so beautiful and or something special about me, so what is taking special care of me? Can continue any of yourself which is we also care identity. We want the tree identity, identity. There is one here.

For a second, the question still this... this new you're new to someone that or going, who is the one that wants freedom? This uninvestigated thought what we see cannot happen to believe that the individual ego which is doing is that. In that moment, you recognize you would it make make it more to make it dirtier based on based on whether you as pointers to check on your insight. What is it that you actually see about yourself? My fire, something, some line hits you and then is that which are myself to be to separate individual entities. So in that way it is useful and can breathe water clarity.

I have to say I like to do, and if it is used to know more spirituality or Advaita on you, become concepts about awareness and consciousness and who you are, then actually it is just ideal to the spiritual concepts. I just know it. No mind will... it feels you want to know it. I don't want God's sake as you, no matter whatever you tell, I do not understand it clearly. Only through my own experience I can understand whatever you might be saying. I'm imagining now. That is why I do not to be used in that way. You might say, 'What is here right now?' Direct experience of that. And don't you the main influence regiment anything from the past or projection from the future. Or can you see what is here? Nothing is in the things that seem to be objective. Yellow that seems to be my body. I don't know whatever I can keep seeing outer world is here when this body is perception. Perception, sorry, perception. What is it that one tween unchanging perception? As long as you are awake, one constant will might keep thinking the body is constantly changing, thoughts and emotions are changing. The one that person can be very good, very good because of me being very good all of this change. What can you say about that one?

You claim on this side of the field, suppose is the source of this side is all the moving parts. We put the world, didn't we? Put the body, you put thoughts, emotions, everything. Now some attention has gone to that which is unchanging. Now stay busy with that and tell me what can you say about that? Bother what your mind is saying, don't bother with feelings at all. Can come in this, it's all representation of the same one would and saying of your mental mind is the master and you cannot have your intuitive presence to the house, isn't it? Which means what? Miku, give up our allegiance to this until voice of limitation who are intuitive presence or intuitive of you, which is the heart itself, not the physical head. You're trying to ride two horses at the same time. And I know one of the voice which is coming and many, many who are in satsang, me in this room and on this room, who started off with the feeling, 'I'm not getting it.' Moving part of the field and is it what is being pointed here for your direct inquiry? Like a class one who understand more it more like John Keating. Okay, what happens works to the left of America is awareness over there situation Pacific Atlantic then it becomes you have to say before I am is awareness. You see all these words like that can be very if it is changing.

And respond in a certain way, it might have to respond in a certain, you know, it might have certain consequence. So much consequence here. I would lose my job if I say that, you know, I'm not making the decisions at that point of time. In that moment, I am making the decision either to X, either express matter to my boss a little subdued or Daniels subtle and express the same thing in a different way. So like I'm making envy of decision in the iron, yes.

So this is exactly what you're looking for, isn't it? What is the 'I' that is making this decision? Relied just on the notion of it, the feeling, 'Oh, it seems like I'm making it' or 'I think I'm making it.' I didn't get that far. Can you repeat it? It is making the decision. If I do this, if this is a bundle of and decide, who's the decision maker? It looks to me it's the mind itself, the options and decides. Then why does it need to pick the option at all? Yes. Do you need a voice to talk to yourselves, ways to communicate with your sense? It's like you pick up the phone with you, 'I'm here.' So just some of these questions might seem strange to you because maybe are not completely used to the speaking and the mind is deciding what is coming from there and the decision is coming from there.

Yes, we can say that template in life or anything at all. You can see that in a waiting there are associated being Google App Engine everyone around honest every expression is unique experience. We can see some things with certainty but none of them really rely on us or truth itself, not for the byproducts of this truth. That is also questioned as a result of nothing will change for your life. Won't even get any additional joy or peace or love, nothing will especially this then after not to keep itself but for the byproducts of this of this truth the team seems to be and not worried about suspension. I mean no guarantee. I'm guaranteeing it to you because something is looking for not only me but everyone around you. They might not admit it to you three blesses the entire universe template that you have to say okay it has to be that way. This agreement assailant in the open to be awakened one everyone he benefit. It's not just this person that you see in ways which are beyond the mind can understand. Thank you all so much for being in satsang today. Guru in Modi Ji ki Jai, Jai.