Contemplation on the Ashtavakra Gita Ch. 1, Vs. 5-9 - 1st August 2017

So let's take the example of right now. Who is doing the hearing? Is it Manju or Atilla? All of the players. Is there an entity sitting here who's doing the hearing? A manifestation of what we are? That doesn't know how to do things, doesn't know how to move a finger. This non-existent entity which presumes to have so much control over life, and this body doesn't know how to fire a neuron because it doesn't exist. This statement will start sounding so silly and ludicrous to me. I'm coming up to the 'me' example, the most common force of the cat one. If I say to you, 'Imagine that you are a cat,' and give this cat some story about where it was born and where it is going, and then I say to this cat, 'Go to a glass of water,' and ask it to hear this as a tongue and tell this cat to pay attention to what I'm saying... so this idea of the individual entity is very much like this. It has no more tangible reality than this, an idea people imposed with... applauding.

So the monkey, someone definitely is not the doer, or is it the experiencer? Instead of 'you neither do nor enjoy,' I would change that word a little bit from 'enjoy' to 'experience.' The 'enjoy' part can be another idea. This is a very important point of all surrender. Most beings who say that we are surrendered to the Lord, or we say that we are surrendered to the Master, 'I have only surrendered,' then we worship some extra. We have not surrendered. We are in resistance. That is why there is some confusion in this statement. It is quoted so often, but from over the years, to surrender is to say, 'Twam Karta, Twam Bhokta.' King's word, or Guru, you are the doer and you are the experiencer. It is this game fully present to the same consciousness, which is the light of this movement of consciousness, and also one who tastes this moment, tastes the phenomenal appearance. So you personally wouldn't even exist; therefore, you personally cannot be the doer nor the experiencer. That which appears, the dynamic aspect, is Being, this consciousness, which is the one doing and experiencing. It's not an entity that makes experiences and some hurt. This consciousness remains untouched. It is the light, the screen, the director, the producer of everything that is playing here. Protection of the quantity. Even deeper than that, it is saying that you witness even this play of God, consciousness. What is just so beyond this phenomenal earth, within which an aspect of you is dancing this dance, playing this play? You remain untouched. You neither do nor enjoy. Who is this one that is his... witnesses everything? Who witnesses everything? You do neither do nor enjoy. You are free.

But so much beyond even any concept of freedom. You are a... the words which everybody remembers from my last few times of sharing, verse ten. And it is one of my favorite verses: 'You are the solitary witness of all that is, forever free. Your only bondage is not seeing this.' Again, we talk about: 'You are the solitary witness of all that is, forever free. The only bondage is not seeing this.' There is one witness to this entire... it was only one event. The Being that emerges out of this Self, the play of consciousness that emerges out of this Self, it can seem like it feels as if there are a multitude of aspects of consciousness, or different levels are available. Entire spectrum. There is a page to tax bill. If it is a black hole, we fall into the skill, all appearing in... it is one mind which, in certain phases of operation, they are all different types of mind also that appear. All different qualities of thought, all different appearances of actions. What witnesses all of these phases? You are the solitary witness of all that is, forever free. Your only bondage is not seeing this.

What do we mean that 'only bondage is not seeing this'? When you are the solitary witness, how can I be bound if I have no form, if I have no shape or size? How can I have bondage? And they take this one down as a question. Look at the face that says so many beautiful things about you: 'solitary witness of all that is.' I can see inside your unattached, formless... you should just be happy, you're free. And how come he tells you, 'Your only bondage is not seeing this'? How can this be? What's up then? Okay, why say more than the answer? The recognition. We like to say 'only bondage.' We would like to take a few moments and contemplate this, maybe a minute or two. Then some answers I'm happy to hear. I'm going to be collecting all your logbooks and all that. What is bondage and what is it applied to?

I think a little element. So there is a witness. There is a witness, and these are very good phenomenal movements. Now, what is it identified with? You don't get without the witness. This is witnessing. How do you witness all this? 'I want that, I don't know,' with respect... employees for everyone on the centerfolds. There is a witness. Now, there is a time where there is only this witness, there is no play. You have the experience of that. So many witnesses. It's awareness having... well, the deep sleep state. There is no phenomena. The phenomena being the phenomenal value of the light of voice phenomena, which is consciousness, not present. So this replaces now. Only the witness is there. Then any sort of trouble, anything we can say is bondage? Just once. What has to happen? It's like something arises out of mechanism, which we call getting into the Being. Then it's autumn, and it can feel like it creates this indirect phenomenal existence, and then it's quick and it's solitary. It's only it. But then when it seems like the only way it could do it is with violence... what I think my colonizers... who are you? See the emergence of this dynamic aspect that we call consciousness. Then comes this agent, creator of dreams to its state, whether it is phenomenal movement. Now, all kinds of phenomena. There is always... then is there phenomenal appearance? One of the phenomenal appearances is thought. Then what engages with that thought in what we lose consciousness way, as if it is engaged with this form? It could just pass just like any other people. Now, what it is? Believe it, imagine it. It starts to be a connect religious, like it says, 'I believe a thought.' Then I'm imagining myself to be something that is not homogeneous me. And then when I imagine myself to be in this body and accept it as somebody, which is not really true because everything is only me, and then I feel like everything else is an object. If I identify that the mind... this is a pillow or this is what do you... and then I start saying... so this belief only engages the thought here for the question. It's not me. So if there is an object, expectation of bazaar, it comes from that which we call the mind. They don't want it or believe or not, they don't do the play of attitude. Your attention on an object can happen. Attention actually directly by itself to motile before we don't even need to forcefully control our attention in some way. I think mostly let's keep so now or the kitty or just this witness, which is awareness within which consciousness is being or seeing.

Belief only engages the top here. For the question 'It's not me,' so if there is an object, expectation, or desire, it comes from that which we call the mind. It doesn't want it or believe or not; they don't do the play of attitude. Your attention on an object can happen. Attention actually directly by itself is motile. Before, we don't even need to forcefully control our attention in some way. I think mostly, let's keep so now, or the kitty, or just this witness, which other awareness within which consists being or consciousness 'I am.' And as long as 'I am' is, which 'I am,' what are they? All of this talk you... which long as word is this 'I am,' then most receiving troublesome to come when she says that the phenomenon retards with so many different objects. Now attention can go to all, but we were critical one of you objects. It's all thought. Thought is what is like this, in simple words, whose only job seems to be to convince this 'I am' that 'I am that.' That is, 'I am something,' not with unlimited being, but 'I have something going that way.' Good days, this Atma. So we will do the G1 and something within the matrix of the idea 'I am something.' It is only a very limited ink in this vision.

So we've seen the consciousness play this game in this way also within itself. The power of attention with which all of this is a child, all this phenomenal dedicate to it, but also you're going to start the power to believe what its own creation, this mind, saying that it's saying this wordplay of buying into this. It is ideal, and if it wanted to, so the only bondage will not see this. Let's look at this. What do we do in satsang? The play of satsang in your life is we come in believing that 'I am something.' What does look more art to point you to the... can you stop? What to build is being have? What are the boundaries of this being? Negative. That is being. How the relationship it is being have? A job? All this trouble is which is belong to dive into the 'I am something' seems to flow void in the mantra. My trail, what is that which is aware of even if your own being? What is the where you put your own being? Okay, 'I am.' They don't think about it too much in actually say these are taking about this concern computer. So naturally you say derive those experiences that is aware of the blight of pips. All this anomaly is to happen if I come to the Sun. The second priority is the theme of the consciousness weighing as we fighted 'I am something,' then concept itself coming the recognition of what it really is. Venus's, I will say this. It says you are the solitary witness of all that is forever clean. The only bondage is not seen. Why? Because it seemed that is only the comfortable recognition they are this welcome and something could be amazed. I debuted in different man, husband and wife; all of these attributes make organizations will actually none exist.

And we have to the party is forgiven. We watch a movie, read a book, you cannot identify with any of the character. We find it available in of that equation are engaging embryos. It was sitting together your book, you know not really. Let's characters were relatable. What does it mean to really couldn't identify with them? So what does that mean? I couldn't, I couldn't believe that these and all I could be in that situation. This ability to take a particle here and say 'This is me' is the power of identifying, power of identification. Oh, insist are giving itself the ability to play as if it is will go and it will be the separate entities to build instability. So that's why what about all of the time? Almost of attendees about this is a condition of arterial here because your only bondage is not see. I usually speak about another aspect of bondage because I like to feel that most of you will win a second. I've seen this. We are keep adding you invaluable experience. First came this far away, go away, or the form of the governor responded. It will be distance between you one with your items. There is none if that's where you are. But again, as we not know, so you are having the recognitions for yourself.

So you see this very quickly. What can happen is that goes inhabit as when to identify with that limited entity and even the scene say 'I,' which is something, 'I am em down at the experience of myself as a way.' This is not true. This consciousness which came to the recognition of its own souls and awareness always know that it is a very anyway. It is more on Allah hooking into the recognition. The link we start to claim it for Sandy. That's why you even over here strong experience with the Sun. I don't give it too much importance, especially when it's tablet. It has been claimed personally. Big bad really claiming this individual again, and I have cynics can become the foundation for the spiritual ages, foundation for evidence. Especially it is not you personally. Like one see will never one that comes with the recognition, the only consequence plaintively off believing itself and coming out of this solution. Are you see this? A disk recovery is not personal. The modern individual entity within recognizing this with mystical and but there is no ground. So these are the spiritual agrees good. It isn't very, very clear. If it is a mutual, then you can feel you don't get it, haven't got it, come to something. If you feel you got it, come to satsang. It will be cumbersome. These are something good without feeling like a perfect color one of the ego might be.

Okay, so more than four verses to be apart and they do. If the bite of a poisonous snake to know 'I do nothing,' the wisdom of feel be happy apart. I'll get with Jack in a minute. The thought and the doer is the bite of the poisonous snake. The more 'I do nothing,' it will wisdom of field. Now we talked about this. The feasible is worship or something I am doing and answering that is which is made up belongs to the identity which actually doesn't exist. Again, taking a set of sensations and saying that we got it, give it to Tommy. I said when we live and become the suffering and we listen say 'Who is in the chakras?' You don't find it today right now. If you move your hand, you find that there is no individual entity actually moving it, just ping the core. So the light of consciousness to the power of X. So this idea on the tool is one of those from this legs of the hook. I spoken about this before when I said that we wouldn't read any book readings we D 1 is 1 well he is worse. Okay, let's start in order n to the tail well leading duality. There is a me and there is at the vegetable this alertly this or acceleration how's it good. We keep a constant believes itself to be something specific. Equality will happen then it can case I desire in the of desires landed this whatever that conception might be, the most popular being the body-mind organisms on this body-mind ordinary people. This did not mean but I want it, I desire without aspiration. Can they do that already? Everything is you ought to do desire or on the physical general sharing the other day. Prana say women, 'Okay, wherever I go I feel like anything belongs to me.' You can come like a very strange statement. Is it really that that's okay saying this actually on the fit is this one, it is one of your s. So this desire isn't exist in that way then the desire coconut from what should I do? Thirty worship as a climb a coconut tree get it then because of the directly desire the worship this become the 3D being could I do and this had taken of the example.

If the good of this commercial would see that all of our grievances because of division in exactly we have this ability as a function boom there would you like oh we are no longer the doing but is that the one does encompass are some using the door on she suited we can remain together we have solve it solve a self of all responsibility but going around it a still individuals we have been in there. So it's the concept of the musical job and not just leap side and these things it also given see who is doing what to who what in this case has been done upon me but I am mother there is no other know me so so as I said forgiveness kindness automatically is we are seeing me as well to be able to in all this jump in the given through ideas over say more as we are coming to the recognition of what we are this individual we will say the duality which type of design the tart 'I am the dual' the by type of for you the fire of an instrument be happy it kills would be something to be and this is very, very, very important understanding and the one awareness consumes all suffering from the fire open it right now this one everything from the box is gone and you are aware of your existence and unless you pick up an idea you will not find something if you seem too we getting disconnected over in this is a good example because now that we are talking about this to listen this one you are aware liquid under to believe a thought about your face unless you give assent to your limitation you for me something you show me any versus that which exists that became aware of existence does that have a desire with lacking in unless you buy an interpretation from the mind in this instant it is done and in abeyance and it is a you can see only means that you are always that do you see now that the effort if there is effort in the pretense of bondage only if you upload the explanation today only fee that if there is effort it is effort not to find freedom because freedom we just checked this instant I'm free for the baby read less is a fun duel French I saw in that moment she for I am before fire monumental so in this tasting it effortlessly you start offers free if you start off as just this ends with no idea 'I am something' whoa what much effort be the effort was free to folder this you are something limited the dens of ego this and it is mine itself which is convinced you that you must walk these five hundred steps to come to freedom because that is the play of individuality alone if you are free now this form where you have to go what is the effortless once I say because even this can be immature so it is that even if it does feel like I hope to find the right portrays so this might seem like effort to you right now just take whatever this formal somebody can say but I'm making this effort this can be me come to the discovery of your effort listen if it is like a little bit of effort it means it well you might say oh I'm all these three I just don't need to come to satsang because to D'Oench of the effort or tens of hundreds coming to the central authority over people I don't want to do the inside is embody this word what is inquiring just the checking of what is into the recognition of what is the mind can make that seem like ever and to be deluded to know at this you are a personal laboratory ego contain to be a purchase because of habit but actually what are you finding finding that in this instrument and from sixty and Dutch pioneer of this phenomenal three less I pick up of concept I pick up a judgment saurons influence I think I can say even if there is pain in the body the pain of faces that you find all the between use of red of the thing then to save that other ISM dividual entity engraving the concept and sickness new your being still space okay don't get confuse with that shape it's so spacious that everything is allowed within it and it's never another space at experience but only when you define yourself consciousness define the third to be something smallest that you can claim as it is were overwhelmed by something how can as we things get overrun by something can the ocean get overwhelmed by wave - how big the tidal wave in the ocean being over this moment is so natural and obvious that you like system are you existing effortlessly of therefore we exist what is the effort you're making your mission to be this to just be with a focus our efforts to exist the thing is if you'd like us or to research into the opportunity to be aware of it existence that to know that I exist but mentally if it is to be aware of it that everything sorry for the chance to look at someone else we we

How big the tidal wave in the ocean being over this moment is so natural and obvious that you like system... are you existing effortlessly? Therefore we exist. What is the effort you're making? Your mission to be this, to just be with a focus. Our efforts to exist... the thing is, if you'd like us to research into the opportunity to be aware of existence, to know that I exist, but mentally if it is to be aware of it that everything... sorry for the chance to look at someone else. We were very good record for my efforts. Let me witness with a thoughtful my project and then you are aware of the differences. Are you making for my effort to derail this dissertation was showing latest well-endowed, you see? I use video.

This is the railroad tickets for the game. Whether education or not, it is not a phenomenon about it. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Just not for clean one, not very ordinary. Five per minute, limit of 40 minutes. If you are in Bolivia, 45 hi. Oh, can you ever be truly... are you in all these always want written communication? Just vehicle body-mind. What does it mean that the entire realm is appearing by distance is very which is unlimited? I am aware of this mission and yet I am just dual sensation, you see? Body-mind, they're possible, whatever it is. So no matter what the appearance is, there is a body, there is a mind, there is a clearance of a world within the sense of existence, and there is a lioness resistance. It is apologies. None of this really goes in the way completed.

This is what we did then. When you see, when I am the body-mind, mean that either awareness when it actually becomes just this limited set of appearances... is that possible? Are you important to I as one? There are Gopala who is fluctuating between body-mind and awareness. The table, do you thing are the MDC? Something is here mouth as well. I'm not happy with this kind of yesterday meeting you will now. Okay, one with us yesterday was really so much joy, laughing. Okay, I'm going to do a story water which will you come every time we're having always this experiment, you see? Commune otherwise at home, just just just butter example to let that go, become normal. Yes, there is a look.

So again, I have a regular life, then on the bus ride to Peru something happened to me and she said, 'It's wrong, this is wrong now. This is to die, it is to driving.' Like you saying, let's go change back. Then the feels like plane can feel like all the joy I will come back. So notice that this world of duality with the toilet or joy derivative is a film of this ending thing is ups and down with alternating current. The design of this is over now to the attached to one aspects of opportunity with multiple attitude. I know you might not see this toward and send down, but the contrast and life also give chase to the opposite. You can never experience any statements or any pain would that I believe is... I know that's not the freedom in this.

Nothing that what I am saying is, yeah, I'm not kidding, everything is me. Therefore you must be feeling that something is... we must fill all the pages in here. Why you people to have had so many masters? Then what happened? So this is the master they had much greater activism. My advice, if I tell you that it is your present experience with that, it's like a wreath at your present experience. What I do you that all of this is you experience? Martin traditional situation in Bangalore of this awesome people now. Which part of this is not you right now? If you're not convinced everything you do, there must be a part which you are not. Which part is not? Wow, that's what we target Turkish.

Let's see whether everything is you announced at there unless you the read eval. Okay, where is the saturation looking? Everything and use recently a concert for me. We say I am asking you non-concept to reach on your insight. Tell me whether what is bounded in a bubble water on all that I see me actually within me is a concept at standard, right? Is not, it's not a one-and-done, cannot a constant. Let's see others can become himself a tasted. Now for that using work with me. So I say, you say that I don't seem like everything is me, then I'm saying what is the boundary between everything and me? Or define everything forces me any. Okay, define the bounding of yourself. I've seen some concepts from your own insight. What is your boundary? Look at your body, right? The one with a boundary which appearances the visual of hands is defined you. This is giving you this, this is within you.

What about this sound of these words? It feels happening inside you. So what is love not containing another vowel is not there, right? Beside that me, tell me one thing which is not invite you to our experience of how side space. Once I know all of it, this is conceptually you come back to concept to see and saying experientially. Experientially you say this body is inside also see these words that you are hearing are inside you, which is saying some of onset to burn so many more context we also have enough. But look where if we were are they even heard incited? What if there's something outside you?

Thank You Joyce, although some things he flies open. Just look at your hand, you see inside. What about Rita? I'll say what is happening is that many times when we hear these words you can see like I must have a out of body awareness on Expedia noise to Ron you don't bet for this. So then this that handle inside you, this hand sure it was conceptual it will keep the concept aside. Now tell me the bow only needed to create this hand amuse the tombola separately and this is case it isn't appearance. Everything is speaking here is anything outside this year's show and I was concerned unfulfilled NSL thing and that one bigger soul and is now answer is affirmed.

Exactly what I was talking about some time ago. So our most pristine experiences, crystal experiences, if there comes the claimant is that this is mine and that diamond will also have suffering because no experience is comfort. There is a state, a state will come and do. I am pointing you to that in which all faiths remember all of that happens within Boston the meet the one who will show an unsure please check now Association I just a way that that means are you ok? Suppose that we will not agree, we'll just go ahead. What are the pros and cons of that? It is a witness of everything but everything is not you for all nothing is you like to be. What is the Ram is nothing easy? So for dealing I'll handling physical body is not to do, mind is not to do. What just witness you? Oh yeah, exact same right? Hoping long is closing eyes with the desire within what changes? It's more jewel content new change to use the command. Can you hear what do you think? Can you hear what do you think kind of quality come to the fore my bike is it absolutely any chance if you want a second to sing for that do this okay boarding the horse.

Good luck table and stuff. I mean this is good. So when you see I need your mouth to be one, this is not just shave it that is sheriff it is good he is such a thing yes what time is it all the same go if you'll forgive me absolutely the session today is no hunting. Okay, there's two feet of the master in the ever give up. I want method hiding to do the worthy with something like around rules. Don't pick up idea within variety. I've become Universal in their old division even the will be taken seems like everyday president seems to be admitted but that means of your getting something from outside freedom the now better and I didn't use coming to my office the way is a facility with how the better question and how we can we give response X Factor is a caucus. Remember in that paper the paper right at URI can it be incontinence? It won't be difficult it happened right behind. Do you have any feel whatever ideal how the positions related or development are and loving it every part is everybody coming to you that you are not communicating the way I want I need you don't have it what power they hold it will be verification is in the fandom you it's a very bad day look I'm again but should be rolled up to three there's a important English famille a simple some big subsidy he does this even this the Finnish bring me to that which you want me to be in just to be aware all the time and I'm not saying I want you two together all the time only thing is you are aware of we can't help it to diversify and beyond where you could package between us very good very good speaker there is one very good i landing right now wait a second we're always watching constantly details that is a material basically speaker is dr. King and also without the I who doesn't want to be a teacher.

Something you hear over and over this idea not a very mention without you this one is he ready male baby so that million of the clavicle one that is but I can't explain all better based on calling ourselves that more competitive but even for that the baby isn't so bad you have to come today you are here this is wherever I want the same thing to I don't you watch any videos okay let's look in the long-term so let's look at one last question where they are asked does conceptual understanding a boat on late into in pipes they are you a believer here I see you you Michaels over yeah now it works it works unless I hear you are here so look at this very good question useful ever time late and doing tests so can you take me to a level that you are which you don't feel it and I get well I've been following this bubble of years now so everything is so clear and ready yeah can you hear me yes very well here yes so you know when I maybe I'm using so everything seems so clear when I listen to it or read you know when I read mr. Samaras I listened to Mooji you listen to you there is no doubt this or space but it doesn't really translate into real knowing like there's not a felt knowing so and it feels like that is always going to be that is always going to the distance between actual knowing and going here with.

So take an example of something which is very clear of what you hear in satsang and then you hear it it's very clear intellectually what do you feel is not your direct insight yet so can you take one example is this like an example like I am awareness or what is it that you it seems very clear when you hear it would still do guru and feel the joy inside for example you know very clear I'm not good model mind exactly think about it it cannot be the body mind but my day-to-day experiences that I'm very much confined to the body mind now if I were to tell you that actually this is not your experience at all but it is only an inference from the mind they take your inferences that your experience is not that you are the body mind we're experiencing body as a set of sensations and some visual and it were interpreting it as you know all the other sensations which were experiencing your interference interpreting that as not in your experience is exactly the same as the experience of a child a child doesn't have this idea of separation or experience is all living in the same it is only this voice of conditioning which could have come from our parents it could have come from this mind it says this sensation is being the sound of the traffic on the road is not me what else is that is it the experience which is telling us that not the head I guess you see the experience is always this you'll be all been experiencing the truth we deflating it as if it is personal I know that that can seem like a bit of a leap because we've always believed that my experience will change when I'm free this is not a take sequence will change it is only that we are not buying the wine stories about what the experience is or what they experience me right now it is an experience of all sensations and if you don't label them my body just notice that there are some sensation in the same way there is the sound of this voice which is another set of sensation what is it that make that or mean and this lets me your experience from Hoynes time.

We have always believed that my experience will change when I'm free. This is not the case. The sequence will not change; it is only that we are not buying the mind's stories about what the experience is or what the experience means. Right now, it is an experience of all sensations. If you don't label them 'my body,' just notice that there are some sensations. In the same way, there is the sound of this voice, which is another set of sensations. What is it that makes that 'other' or 'me'? In this, let's see your experience from point to point. It is the same; it's just different little sensations that you are experiencing. If only the interpretation 'my'—in which someone says this means that somebody else is outside—without that, it is one appearance with no separation. This is your experience right now.

How does the habit break? What makes the habit betray? There are two aspects to this. The first aspect is what we're doing every day, which is to come to the recognition of what is it that I truly am. Who is the one that is aware, who witnesses even the Bible? So, in this, we come to this recognition about the greater aspect of myself. We see that this dynamic aspect is a part of me which comes and goes. So then what happens is, as you taste yourself more and more in this way, when the mind comes with its stories about your limitation and why you are still stuck and you are not getting it, then you start to look at different people. Which one is you? Which one is the mind talking about? As you drop the belief in this one, as more and more you're recognizing what you are, what happens is also dropping beliefs in this one. The recognition seems to become more and more effortless. Exactly, it becomes a virtuous cycle.

So, in some way, what is happening is on both sides. There is inquiry where we are dropping, where we are recognizing what we are, and these are interactions we get often back which we believe are as impulsive. Both of them become the virtuous cycle. So, as more and more you recognize what you are, some of these little blockages which used to follow are not credible anymore. More focus is possible on yourself. We hear it's in the Gita, how this habit is broken. Inside little details, this is certainly later. We have that God is created for what? God is building as we get to the limited identity, and when God comes in the form of a teacher physically and says, 'You are not that,' we have it in God. All of this, everything in satsang, is in service to the recognition of the Tatva, and you are dropping the false conditions about who you are.

So, as soon as you start to see those very strong thoughts, especially these 'seeker' thoughts, 'I'm not getting it,' 'I've been at it for many years,' and other things, to believe these kind of thoughts matters. But if you just can say, 'Who is getting it or not getting it?' we start to see more and more that there isn't such vigilance. Move, resist this. All there always is, is existence. I am awareness is amorphous. Before 'I am,' then you find that we find it more in a mystical way. To attach attributes to 'I am' becomes more and more difficult. To say 'I am this' or 'I am that,' you find both actually become a statement of some sort of limitation. What you find more about yourselves, we are in fact about to be let go. It happens. It is like growing out of this identity of personhood. It's like we grew out of when we were children. We would have had an attraction to some dollhouse or some other toys, probably. We would be what they say, because we recognize that 'I am not that little child anymore.' My research says I would love to read literature and play with my dolls or something like that. That doesn't happen because we recognize ourselves to be something else now.

The radical transformation is happening. We are recognizing that you're beyond all the negation, you're beyond the time landscape. And you will find that the mind is not designed to just keep quiet as the recognition is happening. It will also come with its battle and what you are is... see what I agree. The ability that means that you are still not seeing with all these reports about yourself. But as you stay with your guide and you see with the recognition of what you are, you will find that more and more these reports become laughable. So the only difference between you and a sage right now is that a sage is laughing at most of his or her thoughts, while you seem to be taking them seriously. That's all. In experience, there is no difference.

Thank you all so much for being in person today. Om Guru Sri Moojiji Ki Jai. And those who are new to satsang in this way, I want to say one thing: just don't worry about it. It's all being taken care of. And especially here, if you don't have an expectation of how the taking care of should happen, you see that all these things like Ashtavakra, reading the Gita, Avadhuta Gita, which can seem very distant and abstract, it might start off coming alive in the heart. You might even feel like sometimes being with it is blasphemous and say, 'How could I say it is better than it is?' Let's not go to project. We find it very, we say, forward. By the Grace, this is all of you. You think you love this, but I want to give some time to the Ram chanting again, which came up for someone.

Someone in satsang was going through some very rough times and phenomenal suffering. And from here it developed, you know, joking after the thing is to do is there will come a point in satsang here where I would have contradicted everything I've ever said. So many times I've said here that there are no practices and we do no practices. Yet for someone who was suffering, it came from here to suggest a practice to them. And I would like to take those of you who are interested in things like this through it also. And just a joy, for enjoyment, nothing serious about it, just playful. So for those who feel to leave right now, I completely understand. But the rest of us can stay for this little bit of Ram chanting. This is with the intent of presenting clearly the divine presence in our heart. Of course, it is not the physical heart, although I see something to it for those of you who are going. So, much love to all of you, my loves. Close your eyes gently and safely. Bring your attention to where it is comfortable. If it's comfortable in the region of the heart, with attention there. So make sure your attention is more comfortable. Between the eyebrows, you can bring your attention there. Wherever you feel like attention is at rest and is comfortable, go in there and just follow along. Take some long deep breaths.

Allow your attention to rest in the Divine Presence. If you find yourself distracted, just hear the sound until it actually attaches. Just keep the attention with the hearing of this.