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Awareness Is Aware Even of Attention - 28th September 2017

September 28, 201713:2394 views

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Ananta explores the nature of attention as a finite, phenomenal tool used by Being to taste the world. He distinguishes it from Awareness, noting that while attention focuses on objects, the ultimate Self remains prior to even this quality.

Attention is the intimate phenomenal play of awareness, but unlike awareness, attention can run out.
In the realm of the pure Self, there is not even attention; it is the cessation of its functioning.
Being uses attention to come to the discovery 'I am that I am', but the Absolute is empty of all qualities.

contemplative

attentionawarenessbeingnessphenomenal worldself-inquirydeep sleepadvaita vedanta

Transcript

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Seeker

In a funny way or in a synchronistic way, Rajesh posted a quote of yours yesterday which said: 'Only that exists on which there is attention.' It's a stunning quote. But the other thought, the feeling that came up for me is: Okay, what is attention? You know, you said only that exists on which there's attention, and then the next point of inquiry is: What is this extraordinary quality of attention? I remembered a quote that Rupert Spira mentioned, and it was stunning also, and I wanted you to comment on it. He said that attention is awareness when turned towards an object. Attention is awareness turning towards an object. And the next feeling that came up is: That's amazing, then what is attention when it turns upon itself? What is awareness when it turns upon itself? I want you to just drop that into the field and whatever you would like to respond would be amazing. Thank you.

Ananta

First, apply the first quote: 'Only that exists that has your attention.' So clearly here we are speaking about our phenomenal experience. Can we say that there is a road outside this room? Not conclusively, only because we might hear some sound from the road. So because attention is on that, you can say that there is a road there. The rest is just a presumption. But in that way, the first quote is meant: that only that exists in this phenomenal play that seems to have our attention.

Ananta

So then, what is attention? And this quote is also very nice, what Rupert said. From what I understood, you said that attention is nothing but awareness turned towards an object. So fundamentally, what we're doing is we're exploring the nature of this attention. Now, many times the clue for you is that the Self is without qualities and attributes. The Self is without the veils of the greater Self; it is without qualities and attributes. Now, in a phenomenal plane, there is one thing—it's not really a thing—one thing that comes close to this, which is attention. Because I say: What is the color of your attention? You see? And yet it is not the Self. It is an aspect of the Self. Why? Because awareness is beyond this limitation of any sort, whereas attention is not.

Ananta

So if all of us were to unmute our minds and to start speaking, you would not have the attention to hear everyone. As what happens with many children, they are very tired because all the children are asking for their attention all the time. Now, if you are interacting and then you start interacting and you start interacting, you see that this quantity—unlimited type of attention—runs out very quickly. But we can never say that about awareness. So the real distinction between the Self, awareness, and attention is that attention is like the phenomenal play of awareness. Everything is, but a very, very intimate phenomenal play of awareness is this attention. Because you cannot find any quality to attention except that it seems to run out. Never an out of awareness, but you can run out of attention.

Ananta

So yes, when it is turned towards an object, yes, it's a nice way of explaining it. It's not bad. Or it's so funny, whether actually attention actually turns or whether it is the object on the screen which changes. This is contemplation for us. What you can really, really say is that attention doesn't seem to play unlimitedly in this phenomena, and only that can be perceived. You cannot perceive without attention. Perception works in coordination with attention. But Being uses attention to taste this phenomenal world, to taste the phenomenal. That's where all these primal contemplations come from: 'What is that? When the tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? Nobody else in the forest, the tree falls, does it make a sound?' Also scientific experiments that show Schrödinger's cat—the cat is in the box, there is no observer of it, is there now a cat? It's an experiment about this. What is the observer, the observing quality in this phenomenal realm? The power of perceiving operates on this power, so this is attention.

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Ananta

Now, how far can attention go? We can bring attention to the outer seeming world. We can give attention to the body sensations. You can bring attention to these inner seeming perceptions like thoughts, memories, imagination. Attention can go. And then we can say ultimately: Keep your attention on your Being. Let's put it on the sense of Being. Even this we can say: Yes, I am keeping my attention on my presence. And some might say that it's natural for it to rest there; some might say it seems like a force. But it is still ordered, though objectively, ultimately.

Ananta

Now, when you say: What is prior to this Being? What is aware of even this Beingness? Can we truly say that it is attention? Although in words sometimes you might say it, but can we truly, truly say that it is attention which is going prior to you? Actually, it is like the cessation of the functioning of attention. It's like this spring is completely pulled back. The spring was stopping at all of these different levels, and then we say: Okay, what is prior to even existence? Then this self-discovery, awareness which is self-aware—that is not subject to attention. It is just that attention is divested from everything else, so it can feel like attention came here. But in the realm of the pure Self, there is not even attention.

Ananta

So Being uses attention to come to this discovery: 'I am that I am.' But this Being is coming to the recognition of its source, even though clear attention stops there. So although we can sense that I'm telling you to turn your attention completely inwards to that which is prior to your existence, actually you will find that it is a pointing to divest your attention from everything else. And there, as you come into the non-phenomenal recognition, you will not find the play of even this quality called attention. It is part of the functioning of the Self in its dynamic aspect, which is Being. And Being works in coordination with attention to perceive, to taste this phenomenal existence, your topic Self.

Ananta

I know that some of these things are very subtle. They might, for the mind, be completely abstract. But as you're tasting all of this for yourself, yes, the discovery is made of the source of even Beingness. There, Being comes from. My attention does not go beyond my Being, but as it is divested from everything else, I find that the revelation of this Absolute is empty of all qualities, even something which is such a transparent quality like attention.

Ananta

Is there something beautiful Uchi is saying here? It would seem that perception is the floodlight and attention is the spotlight of awareness, where more focus is put on the object of perception. When this is turned back on itself and all other objects no longer exist, in the Self or beyond Being in this play, even attention is not. Like the deep sleep, did you not pay attention to the nothing? Only that Mohini Self is there. In fact, this experiment with the attention is very beautiful. And as you start noticing the quality of attention, you will see that as sleep is coming—you see those times with which a lot of attention could have been given to a book or to a movie or something like that—when sleep is coming, you find that you don't have that attention to give to it anymore. It seems like it is just withdrawing from the seeming outward. Now I'm just going to rest with you as this objective reality is vanishing. You see? That is that attention which is actually withdrawing. It is why it is not like you said—when this spotlight is there, it seems to always hang on something objective. When the spotlight seems to run out of battery, the world of objective appearances seems to vanish. It seems to dissolve.

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